William Shakespeare@ShakeItO, what men dare do! What men may do! What men daily do, not knowing what they do! Much Ado About Nothing (Act IV, scene I).
London 1600
O. Balee Tuck@Rhet-angular@Rhetro-Actor but as academics are we being "paid" for our ideas or for being circus performers?!
7 Jun 2013
Blake T. Cue@Rhetro-ActorIt's not like I get paid to present at conferences! So if I'm paying to be there, shouldn't I expect people to make it interesting/useful?
27 May 2012
Blake T. Cue@Rhetro-Actor@Rhet-angular maybe, but I have to pay conference registration. How different is that from buying a show ticket?
27 May 2012
Richard A. Lanham@AttnEconomyWrappings matter. You should pay attention to them. They are more important than the content. And, in extreme cases… they may be the content (54).
U Chicago Press 2006
O. Balee Tuck@Rhet-angular@Rhetro-Actor but doesn't it then end up being about pizazz rather than actual content?
7 Jun 2013
Blake T. Cue@Rhetro-Actor@AttnEconomy – right! So presenters have to present their ideas interestingly in order for me to see how interesting they are!
27 May 2012
William Shakespeare@ShakeItO coward conscience, how dost thou afflict me!
(King Richard III, Act V, Scene III).
London 1600
Erin Templeton@eetempleton@roopikarisam I do. I've also been on panels where the organizer has openly encouraged the audience to tweet & provided hashtag
30 Sep 2012
Roopika Risam @roopikarisam@eetempleton Do you then tell the audience it's okay or nor okay to tweet in the panel?
30 Sep 2012
Erin Templeton@eetempleton@roopikarisam When I have organized panels at these confs (eg MLA) I still ask speakers beforehand.
30 Sep 2012
Roopika Risam@roopikarisam@eetempleton If you're at a conf known to have a backchannel, is that implied consent?
30 Sep 2012
Erin Templeton@eetempletonIf I'm giving a paper, chances are I'm cool w/ having people tweet it, but that doesn't mean I won't be pissed if it isn't clear beforehand.
30 Sep 2012
Erin Templeton@eetempletonThe thing re #Twittergate that many seem to miss is that if a presenter wants her ideas tweeted, she's perfectly capable of tweeting them.
30 Sep 2012
Melonie Fullick@qui_oui@tressiemcphd Maybe people just need to think about how certain tweets make us look like jerks, in a professional context. Twitterquette?
30 Sep 2012
Roopika Risam@roopikarisamBecause I tweet, therefore I am? It's not admiration or anything, just self-serving? I don't buy it. #twittergate@tressiemcphd
Richard A. Lanham@AttnEconomyIn a culture where speaking is fundamental, not writing, the self is necessarily a dramatic self, and actor, and the conversation a drama (109).
U Chicago Press 2006
tressie mc@tressiemcphdIs backchanneling our way of building a "hip" digi-brand at the expense of presenters? Fair question #twittergate
Alexis Lothian@alothianBUT RTing also makes for spread and flow of ideas, & is one of the most valuable things about acatwitter. #twittergate
30 Sep 2012
Alexis Lothian@alothianComing late to #twittergate, I think the biggest risk of misrepresentation comes from the RT: a part picked from a holistic stream.
cary gibson@this1littlebird@tressiemcphd stealing happens anyway. I've seen 1st hand paper submitted for conf. Rejected. Stolen by v ppl who called for papers.
Roopika Risam @roopikarisam@tressiemcphd This makes me laugh? In fairness, one expects conf talk to not leave a room. Better not discuss talk w/ anyone not there.
Richard A. Lanham@AttnEconomyThe Internet models the larger cultural conversation, & when something is put up there, people naturally consider it not as a product but as part of a conversation (13).
tressie mc @tressiemcphd@roopikarisam presenters consent to a very specific format, tweeting disrupts that & mostly for personal gain - building scholar brand
30 Sep 2012
Blair LM Kelley@profblmkelley@tressiemcphd@roopikarisam How does someone control audience behavior? And why would you try? I'm generally happy to have an audience. ;)
30 Sep 2012
tressie mc@tressiemcphd@roopikarisam@profblmkelley it was mentioned that notes are different. i think the difference is normative definitions of "attention"?
Keep It Surly@surlyurbanist@tressiemcphd true but what constitutes rude is the demonstration of inattention not the actual inattention
30 Sep 2012
tressie mc@tressiemcphd@surlyurbanist assumes that not tweeting means one is paying attention when it only means inattention more visible to presenter #twittergate
30 Sep 2012
Keep It Surly@surlyurbanist@tressiemcphd and does not leave space for response...but this is a risk regardless of medium...diff is in scale and immediacy of impact
30 Sep 2012
Keep It Surly@surlyurbanist@tressiemcphd from afar, I think the rudeness/misrepresentation piece holds some credence...tweeting mid-presentation means may miss points
30 Sep 2012
tressie mc@tressiemcphd@literarychica@roopikarisam what tweeting DOES do: makes it visible to presenter what people think or when they aren't engaged
30 Sep 2012
Patrick.@SpringaldJack@tnopper@wardellfranklin Can you really tell if I'm typing on my tablet because I'm tweeting or because I'm taking notes?
29 Sep 2012
vogelfrei@nerdosyndical@wardellfranklin 2/2 a panel which is clearly non-workshoppy and not likely to put panelists in uncomfortable position also seems ok to me
29 Sep 2012
vogelfrei@nerdosyndical@wardellfranklin I would agree it's bad form for panelists to tweet during others' presentations. audience tweeting a keynote or
29 Sep 2012
josh guild@wardellfranklinlast word for now: i think it is uniformly inappropriate for a participant to tweet during a session & only situationally app for audience